06-18-2006, 11:05 AM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 42 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,253 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,253 Donate | FFXI Bards vs. EQ Bards Hello !
I am recently levelling RDM and BLM to 30 and am wondering about unlocking Bard. The last MMORPG I played, was Everquest, from Kunark to Luclin expansions. I had a level 18 Bard on that game, but I must wonder : how different is the bard job in FFXI from the bard class in Everquest ?
I am not sure if there are many others who have also played both games, but I was particularly interested in solo capabilities. At least at the time I played EQ, bards could sing two songs at once (they were not "intended" to do that), charm a mob and haste their weapon at the same time, and shamelessly plow through stuff with reckless abandon. Can bards do that in FFXI ? Anything even remotely similar ?  Destined Fellow Eue
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Tenshodo Fame 3 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-18-2006, 11:07 AM | #2 (permalink) | | Drama Queen Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 979 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 2 Thanked 9x in 7 Posts Gil: 3,675 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,675 Donate | Re: FFXI Bards vs. EQ Bards BRDs in FFXI are pretty much a support-only job.
I'm pretty sure they're the worst solo class in the game. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-18-2006, 11:09 AM | #3 (permalink) | | Junior Member Administrator Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,929 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 235 Thanked 682x in 347 Posts Gil: 20,713 Bank: 77,920 Total Gil: 98,633 Donate | Re: FFXI Bards vs. EQ Bards There isn't really any job in FFXI that can plow through mobs near their level with reckless abandon. Bards in FFXI are party-oriented buffers that don't possess much melee or soloing capability unless you deck them out in some pretty expensive gear.  - | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-18-2006, 01:53 PM | #4 (permalink) | | J...atatouille Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 8,338 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 5 Thanked 136x in 106 Posts Gil: 28,887 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 28,887 Donate | Re: FFXI Bards vs. EQ Bards it's been a long time since I played EQ. Haven't got to see EQ bard's solo before, only saw a lot of shaman/necro soloing. The way the 2 sing are different but I guess how they sing aren't exactly the information what you're looking for.
FFXI brd is very weak on their own. But their present alone can turn any ordinary group into a godly killing machine. There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
but there are others who with the help of their art and their intelligence
transform a yellow spot into the sun.
- Pablo Picasso | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-18-2006, 02:01 PM | #5 (permalink) | | Can't You Read? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 392 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 2 Thanked 18x in 14 Posts Gil: 2,613 Bank: 3,378 Total Gil: 5,991 Donate | Re: FFXI Bards vs. EQ Bards Bard in a party turns the group into a finely honed abbatoir. For solo though... there are other jobs if you want the chunking through mobs with glee. | Originally Posted by Taskmage | | There isn't really any job in FFXI that can plow through mobs near their level with reckless abandon. | *cough*Blue Mage*cough*
At least in the beginning... you can't handle more than two Tough++ at once past about level 30... but that's still quite an achievement in itself. I think my silliest record I haven't bested (nor do i intend to try now) since level 12, which was a train of 10 EP, 3 DC and 1 EM as Blu/Brd.
Bst does a fairly good job too of monster solo feats, and Drg can pretty much exp solo nonstop on a diet of EM/T if geared correctly.
- Saeriel | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-18-2006, 02:34 PM | #6 (permalink) | | Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,575 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 173 Thanked 107x in 67 Posts Gil: 11,193 Bank: 50,087 Total Gil: 61,281 Donate | Re: FFXI Bards vs. EQ Bards Thanks for reminding me I have to unlock DRG and BRD for soloing >.>  | Originally Posted by Ellipses | | Really, it's just like pretty much every question about this game that begins with "Why." The answer is "Because." | | Originally Posted by MCLV | | A subjob is like sex, you shouldn't have it untill your 18 but if you don't have it after 21 everyone laughs at you. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-18-2006, 02:48 PM | #7 (permalink) | | Can't You Read? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 392 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 2 Thanked 18x in 14 Posts Gil: 2,613 Bank: 3,378 Total Gil: 5,991 Donate | Re: FFXI Bards vs. EQ Bards You don't need to be Drg/Brd to solo though Onion... you can solo as Drg/Blu, Drg/Rdm, Drg/Whm, Drg/Drk, Drg/Nin...
Otherwise.. you're welcome though. ^^ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-19-2006, 10:37 AM | #8 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 42 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,253 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,253 Donate | Re: FFXI Bards vs. EQ Bards k - thanks for the info/insight guys ! Am now RDM 22, 900 tnl. Will unlock BRD and DRG as well. Hell, may as well unlock BLU too, while I'm at it. Good luck and happy hunting !  Destined Fellow Eue
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Tenshodo Fame 3 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-22-2006, 01:46 AM | #9 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 179 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 9 Thanked 32x in 19 Posts Gil: 1,471 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,471 Donate | Re: FFXI Bards vs. EQ Bards At 75 BRD is far from the worse solo class in the game. They might not be the best but I'd say they are probably near the top 5. The problem is people don't know how to solo with BRD and do it horribly. They wear horrible magely gear and don't really use the jobs ability to their advantage.
We aren't the fastest soloer but what matters when soloing is if you can do it when it's necessary. If you claim an NM it's not about how fast you can kill it but that you can. Sure it takes a RDM/NIN 20 minutes to solo Ulli but what matters is that they can.
The biggest thing about BRD is that they are probably the only job that can handle large amounts of EP-DC mobs. Any other job in the game would have trouble with that. RDM/NIN would come in second but BRD has uninteruptable sleeps that would keep us from getting owned while working out way through a group of mobs. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:43 AM. | | |