03-25-2006, 09:04 PM | #1 (permalink) | | Propitious Bard Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 5,625 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 5,625 Donate | Elemental Staff Effectiveness So I went out and bought all the staves I thought would work for me at lvl 68. (Light, Dark, Earth, Ice, Water) I thought about buying the +1 versions of each one. The question is of course, is the +1 worth all the extra gil for added effectiveness achieved. Take in mind my budget is about 800k-1mil to spend on staves. Discuss  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-25-2006, 10:12 PM | #2 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Korea Posts: 371 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 2,576 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,576 Donate | Re: Elemental Staff Effectiveness Getting Earth and Light HQ are your top priorities. Elegy at levels 39 and 59 slow your opponent's speed, crippling their attacks. Having a Earth Staff helps tremendously because Elegy is Earth element, having a Terra's Staff would help get the song resisted, saving time.
I say Apollo's Staff secondly because Lullaby is Light element, and seeing them resisted at tight positions causes havok. If you have the extra gil, upgrading Light into Apollo's isn't so bad.  Sony NW-E507 [wishlist] Last edited by kazuri : 03-26-2006 at 02:38 AM. Reason: Miswording & Mistakes | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-25-2006, 10:46 PM | #3 (permalink) | | Senior Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 1,186 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 9 Thanked 12x in 11 Posts Gil: 1,230 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,230 Donate | Re: Elemental Staff Effectiveness Apollo's staff's only benefit to cures would be the +1 MND increase over light staff, which wouldn't do a /WHM much good. I think that terra's staff would be the first HQ staff to worry about as BRD. And apollo's staff second, only if you have excess gil, or your lullabies (lullabys?) are getting resisted way too much.
Although, I only have my experiences on getting exp buffers on my friend's level 75 BRD and whatever information I've retained about the job. I wouldn't mind hearing some other opinions. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-26-2006, 02:29 AM | #4 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: University of Arkansas Posts: 934 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 17,257 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 17,257 Donate | Re: Elemental Staff Effectiveness | Originally Posted by kazuri | Getting Earth and Light HQ are your top priorities. Elegy at levels 39 and 59 slow your opponent's speed, crippling their attacks. Having a Earth Staff helps tremendously because Elegy is Earth element, having a Terra's Staff would power up your efficiency even more.
I say Apollo's Staff secondly because a BRD tends to cast curing spells commonly, not to mention Lullaby is Light element. | First, from my understanding the staves only affected the resist rate and not the potency (might affect requim, but carnage is a set potency I think). Second, getting apollo's because you cure a lot is pointless...they both have +10% cures. NQ staves are just fine if you don't have money to spare.  Whm 75 Blm 37 Brd 75 | Bastok Rank 10 | Whm > Rdm | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-26-2006, 02:36 AM | #5 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Korea Posts: 371 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 2,576 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,576 Donate | Re: Elemental Staff Effectiveness Hm, whoops. A mistake there, I forgot that Apollo didn't add an extra 5% into curing spells.
When I said efficiency, I didn't mean adding more into slow, maybe I misworded it a bit. Sorry for the misconception.
What Rones said is so true though, there’s no need for HQ Staves if your budget is tight. In the end, HQ Staves are luxury items. There are much better ways to spend your money if you just get an NQ.  Sony NW-E507 [wishlist] | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-26-2006, 10:11 AM | #6 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,709 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 49 Thanked 286x in 142 Posts Gil: 35,117 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 35,117 Donate | Re: Elemental Staff Effectiveness I don't know what servers you guys are from, but if the original poster has only 1M budget, she's not getting *any* HQ staves on Carby. They start at 3M and go up from there, IIRC.
Never having owned an HQ staff, I can't comment much on whether there is an additional resist difference or how big it is. Rones is right that bards won't see a significant spell potency difference, though, so if you're fine with your elegy/lullaby resist rates with NQ staffs, HQ won't really help you.
Once you get to 70+ and start doing HNMs more often, you may want to re-examine the issue of resists and whether or not HQ staves could help, but you'll still need more money to do anything other than window shop.  Defeated: Maat, Divine Might, Fenrir, Kirin, Cactrot Rapido, Xolotl, Diabolos Prime, Kurrea, 9/10 Dynamis Bosses (missing Tav), Promathia, Proto-Ultima, Proto-Omega, 4 Jailers, Apocalypse Nigh
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Windurst Rank 10, ZMs & PMs Complete, AUMs Complete, First Lieutenant, Holyknight Emblem | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-26-2006, 11:03 AM | #7 (permalink) | | The Closer Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,340 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 113 Thanked 425x in 272 Posts Gil: 9,475 Bank: 106,150 Total Gil: 115,624 Donate | Re: Elemental Staff Effectiveness LOL Same for Midgard. HQ staves were 3-6 mil each last time I checked. HQ staves are a HUGE investment. When I see someone with a full set all I can do is drool. LOL | Originally Posted by WishMaster3K | | The vagina is a magical object. | | Originally Posted by Balfree | | AND, running the game at 2024x2024 resolution, with forced AA and AF... o boy, you can even see that galka's pubes. | Originally Posted by Malevolent | | But what i learned is that devout catholics CANNOT and WILL NOT take a friggin joke. Also, trying to explain a joke to them is like farting in a revolving door. | Originally Posted by Aksannyi | | FFXIOnline.com ... "Where women are not constantly begged to show tits or GTFO!" | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:15 AM. | | |