07-02-2003, 08:02 AM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 64 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 4,145 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,145 Donate | Bard Help [Needed] Im thinking of making a Tar Mnk/Brd the reasoning is to sing for attack boosts before i melee the enemy, i was wondering if i could get some opinions on this.
Also do i have to buy songs like spells?
Last question is can i use an instrument if im Mnk/Brd or not plus the penalties of having the Brd job as sub class not primary class.
Takanaki | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-02-2003, 08:29 AM | #2 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 470 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 470 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 470 Donate | Brd subs generally do not work... you can only sing one song and you cannot use instruments. Without instruments, every song except for the HP regen and MP regen songs work at about 1/2 effectiveness max. Also as a bard sub you can only keep 1 song going at a time.
Also you must buy songs like spells, however songs have been *much* cheaper for me so far than white mage spells, yet that might be do to relative bard rarity than anything else.  Still trying to play way too much...
60 BRD, 75 BST, 37 WHM, 15 THF, 16 BLM
BCNM40 over 100 wins ><
BCNM60 |] 3-0-1 [|
Pallas - 2/16 (Solo'd at LVL 64)
Alksomething - 0/8 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-03-2003, 12:01 AM | #3 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 23 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 242 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 242 Donate | Wouldn't subbing bard be good to use mp/hp regen?
RDM42/BRD21
Refresh,ballad,Regeneration,Regeneration song
Sounds cool to me  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-03-2003, 12:24 AM | #4 (permalink) | | J...atatouille Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 8,338 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 5 Thanked 136x in 106 Posts Gil: 29,357 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 29,357 Donate | for mages, ballard can be a little help if you don't have a "real" bard with you.
I personally will sub some other mage for my RDM tho. For more magics and MP.
and umm... ballard is level 25. so you need 50/25 atleast There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
but there are others who with the help of their art and their intelligence
transform a yellow spot into the sun.
- Pablo Picasso | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-03-2003, 07:27 AM | #5 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 470 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 470 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 470 Donate | I just got ballad and I was sort of disappointed... 1 mp every 3 seconds only... I am hoping that it is just because of my level and that ballad will increase in strength but I'm not sure it will (the pain spells never seemed to get stronger and I assume ballad was similiar). Perhaps this was one of the bard nerfs mentioned earlier...  Still trying to play way too much...
60 BRD, 75 BST, 37 WHM, 15 THF, 16 BLM
BCNM40 over 100 wins ><
BCNM60 |] 3-0-1 [|
Pallas - 2/16 (Solo'd at LVL 64)
Alksomething - 0/8 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-03-2003, 11:31 AM | #6 (permalink) | | J...atatouille Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 8,338 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 5 Thanked 136x in 106 Posts Gil: 29,357 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 29,357 Donate | that's all ballard 1 does. it won't get stronger. you need ballard 1+2 to really be generating any good MP.
but BRD also got other songs. altho you only got 1 ballard you still can boost your party wit ht tons other songs. which are all great help There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
but there are others who with the help of their art and their intelligence
transform a yellow spot into the sun.
- Pablo Picasso | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-03-2003, 01:56 PM | #7 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 56 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 125 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 125 Donate | Your songs will increase in strength as you level, my Pian1 and 2 songs are capable of regenerating 2 and 3 HP, respectively. I believe Ballad1 was able to regenerate up to 2 MP prior to the 4/15 patch, but it only regenerates 1 MP now. Bard is still a highly sought after job for PTs, so don't be too discouraged.  BRD75/RDM54/THF46/WHM38/WAR33/BST27/BLM26/SMN21/MNK16/NIN15/PLD14/SAM13/DRG11/RNG11/DRK10 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-03-2003, 02:32 PM | #8 (permalink) | | Senior Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,229 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,154 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,154 Donate | wow bards are very interesting, lol.... | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-04-2003, 01:44 PM | #9 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 470 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 470 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 470 Donate | thanks for the input guys I will have to keep working toward 55 then so I can feel like some really good mp regen is going on   Still trying to play way too much...
60 BRD, 75 BST, 37 WHM, 15 THF, 16 BLM
BCNM40 over 100 wins ><
BCNM60 |] 3-0-1 [|
Pallas - 2/16 (Solo'd at LVL 64)
Alksomething - 0/8 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-16-2003, 09:41 AM | #10 (permalink) | | Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,587 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,275 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,275 Donate | Just the other day I realized that bard is the coolest job ever! Damn I love it | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:27 PM. | | |