Will we ever be able to see who is seeking for party and is afk or not?

[robinkle]

Sometimes people fall asleep. Or they get a phone call, or something. Heck, maybe you're on their blacklist and you just don't know it. Bottom line, they won't respond to your tells at that point, so it's not a big deal.

Re: Invites - I don't care if there are dozens of people seeking for every role I need, or only one of each. Sending a tell first is just polite. It's the way things are done in this game. That's a community issue, not a game mechanics issue.

Good point.
How often are you blacklisted.? its a very small issue unless you piss of players all the time.

Firstly it matters how long time it will take before your flag gets blue.
you can take a phone call before it gets blue. you can get some food. Lets say it would take 10 mins before it got blue. would that be suitable?

Yes sending a tell before inviting is how most ppl do it in the game, but ppl dont wana take the chance of someone else taking the ppl seeking. suddenly you have a pt of 2 and a pt of 3 and 1 that is afk.

So its perfered that you ask each player who seeks and invite them as soon as they respond.but risc ending up with 1 member short cuz he/she is afk on unknown time.

[Sevv]

Honestly, a bigger concern for me is the jobs that aren't getting invites at all.

Please stop trying to nerf the tp burn pts.... Want to fix low invite jobs, invite them!

Stop with the nerfs (this is to everyone)

[robinkle]

That's just the way it goes. Whether that particular PLD responds at all or not, you still need a tank with 5/6. Just because the first 5 others you ask don't join straight away, it doesn't mean you need some kind of new system to form a PT. Just keep looking for whatever you need to fill out your setup.

Well if you know the pld wont respond in the first place, you wouldnt need the hassle about getting the other 5 either. Better to wait till the PLD goes back to green or a new tank will show up.

I cant say its a system. more like an added feature.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Please stop trying to nerf the tp burn pts.... Want to fix low invite jobs, invite them!

Stop with the nerfs (this is to everyone)

The hell?

Who said anything about TP burn? Paranoid much?

SE has already stated they are content in leaving ToA EXP as broken as it is, all under the guise of "different styles of PTs." Why are you worried?

That doesn't mean the other jobs that still haven't gotten adjustments shouldn't get them. Simply inviting a PUP to one PT isn't going to change the world. These different "styles" of PTs still exclude a lot of players and encourge the popular jobs to play poorly and have cemented minimal thinking when putting such PTs togther.

By adjusting and updating jobs, SE can either help jobs conform to the trends or create new ones. I'd think that would be a good thing. I'd very much like to see a MNK do something besides rely on a BRD for all thier power.

[robinkle]

Ok, so your COR and RDM leaves. You can disband your party or keep trying to build. This really isn't a problem. I havn't been in a party like the one you described for quite some time.

As Murphie said (and as I have said in my previous posts), there are number of reasons for people going afk while seeking. I tend to think a bit higher of people and think that it was for something beyond their control (emergencies and such), or some other circumstance where they think they won't be gone long enough to not be able to accept an invite (making food).

And, as lyon said, the only way to solve this problem is to teach others not to do it in the first place.

The problem you are trying to solve has no solution beyond that. And, as you KEEP pointing out (and as I will also keep pointing out), yes, you made an idea. However, we have all shown how a) this isn't a problem or b) there is no way to fix it. Please be graceful and leave it at that.

"Ok, so your COR and RDM leaves. You can disband your party or keep trying to build. This really isn't a problem. I havn't been in a party like the one you described for quite some time."

Yes thats how it is today. What if you knew the PLD was afk? Now you spend so much time starting a party that never got to camp. This often takes up to or even more then 1 hour. I call that a waste.
And the party setup I said, was just an example, it could be any party setup.

"As Murphie said (and as I have said in my previous posts), there are number of reasons for people going afk while seeking. I tend to think a bit higher of people and think that it was for something beyond their control (emergencies and such), or some other circumstance where they think they won't be gone long enough to not be able to accept an invite (making food)."

Yes. and if there was an emergency or what ever happening, you wouldnt need a party invite anyways. Cuz you would be busy doing your thing.
Btw. I didnt mention how long it would take before your flag would become blue. Lets say 10 mins. you can get food, get medicine, restroom. If Dad fell of a ladder and broke his leg, it s nice that it would turn blue. Not your concern at the time, but to the best for the players who wana start party.


And, as lyon said, the only way to solve this problem is to teach others not to do it in the first place.

ppl go afk even knowing its frustrating for the pt leaders. Teaching wouldnt help. if the game forced it, it would work.

yes, you made an idea. However, we have all shown how a) this isn't a problem or b) there is no way to fix it. Please be graceful and leave it at that

A) I know its a game, and its not a problem in general. Still a bit of less frustration while palying the game helps.

B) Thats a made up rule. In a game you can do anything, how is the question.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Ok, now you're just not making any sense.

[robinkle]

Ok, now you're just not making any sense.

Please quote and I'll give you an answer. ^^

[Aeolus]

I'd very much like to see a MNK do something besides rely on a BRD for all thier power.

That should be every "I lved this job to 75 because its fast and easy" mnk do something without a brd. We arnt all complete gimps who are scared to do anything but /nin. Never get a brd in my PT during ls events ever; ; and I do just as well as some of the better equiped/merited sams, drks etc. DoT that is, they do like 300 more ws dmg than me.

[KingOfZeal]

Please quote and I'll give you an answer. ^^

Pick something.

Besides the annoyance of quoting everything twice, your reply to point B made no sense whatsoever.

[robinkle]

Pick something.

Besides the annoyance of quoting everything twice, your reply to point B made no sense whatsoever.

I'm sorry for asking for a quote. It just makes it simpler. I try to answer all posts.

but here goes.:

b) there is no way to fix it. Please be graceful and leave it at that

Its just a too quick conclusion.
If you dont want to discuss this, or find quoting anoying, I suggest you stop posting as well.

The reason I post in the forums is to discuss this. I wana make it simpler for players doing party making, who find players who seek as afk frustrating.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

That should be every "I lved this job to 75 because its fast and easy" mnk do something without a brd. We arnt all complete gimps who are scared to do anything but /nin. Never get a brd in my PT during ls events ever; ; and I do just as well as some of the better equiped/merited sams, drks etc. DoT that is, they do like 300 more ws dmg than me.

Yeah I know not all MNKs are like that, but the class is so saturated now that is hard to find a good one. Best one I had recently was a Tarutaru. We had no BRD, I pulled as COR and we got high chains just fine.

Yeah and I feel your pain on the BRD thing in LS events, when I do get the BRD out, I'm slammed into the mage PT instantly. After a year of COR being out there, people still don't understand that if they want mage support, it doesn't get better than COR (unless you put a SMN in that BLM PT with the COR, then its even better). I'll go COR if it will force them to put a BRD in the melee PTs. BRD is wasted on mage PTs.

[robinkle]

I did read the whole post. Do I have to just click the flag off once, when I start seeking (which would defeat the point)? Or do I have to keep clicking it off as it comes up (which is just another way of requiring regular manual input)?

Consider this: I could simply put a rubber band around my controller to make my character walk in circles or into a nearby wall. That would be my personal solution on how to keep myself from getting flagged as AFK.

I'd give suggestions on ways to improve your idea. But simply put, I don't think there is a way to improve it. The best way solve your problem is education: tell people to turn off seeking / logout when they need to go AFK for any period of time.

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Sorry I didnt mean any offence.

Well. when players wants to do something else while playing, it would be silly if the flag turned blue, I totally agree with that. Getting around that is the biggest issue about my idea. I see that now. but personally, I think the theory, whe whole point it self is a good idea. I just wana solve that issue.

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Consider this: I could simply put a rubber band around my controller to make my character walk in circles or into a nearby wall. That would be my personal solution on how to keep myself from getting flagged as AFK.

What if the blue flag only shows up when 1 action is reapeting it self or nothing happens (no typing or moving). It could be a way to get around that. anyways, just a few players would actually make themself not look like they are afk on purpose?

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'd give suggestions on ways to improve your idea. But simply put, I don't think there is a way to improve it. The best way solve your problem is education: tell people to turn off seeking / logout when they need to go AFK for any period of time

That sounds like a big project lol. Well I wana digg a bit more before I make the conclution about this aint possible. Those who knows best would be SE. I can only suggest about seeing who is afk or not, and leave the rest to SE.