Could Conquest items work in ToAU areas?

[Mhurron]

While ToAU has become very popular, almost being the area where people exclusively level 55+, it has made a slew of items that can be obtained through conquest next to useless. However do they really need to be?

The items in question are obviously those that have effects dependant on either "In own nations control" and "Outside nations control." While "In Nations control" items obviously couldn't work in ToAU areas (unless Windurst took over Aht Urgan) ToAU areas are always going to be "Outside Own Nations control."

Sanction will trigger Conquest items effects, so would it be possible to have Conquest items work in ToAU areas?

[Raydeus]

(Yes, please.)

It would be great if conquest gear worked in Aht Urgan, I really hate losing the effect from my Rep. Medal.

And things like M.C. Bracelets would be great for many situations in Aht Urgan.

[Aksannyi]

That would be really nice, and honestly, it really doesn't make sense why it wouldn't work there, anyway. Aht Urghan is under no one's control except their own, so it only makes sense that "Outside nation's control" items would work there.

[Wise Donkey]

Great question! My guess is they will not change anything to "motivate people to Exp Party in Conquest areas."

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

yeah, kinda sucks how you might work hard and save up all those CPs for something like Master Caster Bracelets and only have the odd chance of using them in sky, sea or some HNM camp IF its under control by your nation and then go to ToA zones where they never see use at all.

In fact if all conditional conquest items just applied to "Citizens of (nation)" instead of regional control, I'd be a lot happier with them.

[Raydeus]

It would suck if they changed the effect to citizenship, the same way it sucks you lose the effect from Aketons if you move to another country.

The way things are now I can at least combine Basty's MP medal with M.C. Bracelets. I just want to be able to use em in Aht Urgan.

Also, I think the Nation Aketon restriction should be removed, even if that made Aketons Rare/Ex.

[IfritnoItazura]

yeah, kinda sucks how you might work hard and save up all those CPs for something like Master Caster Bracelets and only have the odd chance of using them in sky, sea or some HNM camp IF its under control by your nation and then go to ToA zones where they never see use at all.

^_^; You keep doing this...

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/Master_...%27s_Bracelets

Master Caster's Bracelets
(Hands) All Races
In areas outside own nation's control:
INT +1 MND +1 Enfeebling Magic Skill +7
Elemental Magic Skill +7
Lv. 65 MNK / WHM / BLM / RDM / THF / DRK
BRD / RNG / SMN / BLU / COR / PUP

[Karinya]

MC bracelets always work in Dynamis, sea and Limbus: they're non-TAU areas which are always outside your control. They frequently, though not always, work in sky and a lot of HNM camps (other than the TAU ones, of course).

I don't think they're useless at all - they're just not useful in every possible situation. Neither is equipment with "In Assault", "In Beseiged" or specific day/weather effects, but that doesn't mean all that stuff is useless or should be changed so it works all the time. Equipment that only works under certain conditions is part of how SE keeps high-level equipment interesting: there is no one best choice.

[Mhurron]

I don't think they're useless at all - they're just not useful in every possible situation. Neither is equipment with "In Assault", "In Beseiged" or specific day/weather effects, but that doesn't mean all that stuff is useless or should be changed so it works all the time. Equipment that only works under certain conditions is part of how SE keeps high-level equipment interesting: there is no one best choice.

I'm not suggesting that they remove the effect, just that it works as stated. It says 'Areas outside Own nations Control. Aht Urgan areas are outside my own nations control, so with Sanction or Sigent active it seems like it should work. I don't expect that an "In Dynamis" effect would work in Assult, but I would like an "Outside own nations control" item to work in all areas outside my own nations control.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

^_^; You keep doing this...

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/Master_...%27s_Bracelets

Master Caster's Bracelets

(Hands) All Races

In areas outside own nation's control:

INT +1 MND +1 Enfeebling Magic Skill +7

Elemental Magic Skill +7

Lv. 65 MNK / WHM / BLM / RDM / THF / DRK

BRD / RNG / SMN / BLU / COR / PUP

"Inside," "outside," "Citizens of"... its all silly requiste nonsense for something you have to toil to get. Just make it standard stat since ToA nulls them all.

And I "keep doing this?"

[Mhurron]

"Inside," "outside," "Citizens of"... its all silly requiste nonsense for something you have to toil to get. Just make it standard stat since ToA nulls them all.

No it doesn't.

Inside areas own Nation Controls: ToAU area will never fall under this, effect should not be triggered

Outside areas own Nation Controls: ToAU areas always fall under this, effect should be triggered

Citizens of: Well, ToAU has nothing to do with this as you can't become a Citizen of ToAU.

I see no reason to void all those requirements, just that they all work like it seems they should.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

No it doesn't.

Inside areas own Nation Controls: ToAU area will never fall under this, effect should not be triggered

Outside areas own Nation Controls: ToAU areas always fall under this, effect should be triggered

Citizens of: Well, ToAU has nothing to do with this as you can't become a Citizen of ToAU.

I see no reason to void all those requirements, just that they all work like it seems they should.

Yeah they all become useless under various conditions, that's great :P

[Murphie]

I don't have a problem with them becoming useless under certain conditions. But I do agree that ToAU areas should be factored in in some way so as to enable them to be used in the areas that most players spend all their time in these days.

Good question, Mhurron.

[Vyuru]

Actually, what I would like to see is conquest items working inside ToAU areas, and the option to become a citizen of Aht Urhgan.

That way, if you are a non citizen, you get the "Outside of Nation's control" benefits. If you are a citizen, you gain the "Inside Nation's control" benefits.

[Aksannyi]

I'd personally love to see the ability for us to become citizens of Jeuno before we can become citizens of Aht.