03-05-2007, 02:36 PM | #1 (permalink) | | Programming Slave Administrator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: California, USA Posts: 1,551 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 65 Thanked 60x in 29 Posts Gil: 25,390 Bank: 19,292,936 Total Gil: 19,318,326 Donate | Rules for the "Ask SquareEnix" section. The FFXIOnline.com Moderation and Administration Team would like to announce changes to the "Ask SquareEnix" section in order to improve visibility and further continue in our efforts to open communications with the SquareEnix FFXI Community Relations Team.
These changes include re-implementation of the intentions of the section, in which I am going to emphasize now. - All thread headers MUST be in the form of a question, and the details of the question in the body of the post (if the question needs to be explained in detail the situation). If it is not even in the form of a question, your "question" may not even be selected and maybe deleted or removed.
- One question per thread, any questions not at the first post of the thread will not be considered. If the questions are inter-related you may include them together. For example: Are you going to do anything about RMT? If so, what would you do?
- The Moderation and Administration Team of FFXIOnline.com at the end of each month will lock all threads for that month and archive it into the archive sub-forum.
- The Moderation and Administration Team of FFXIOnline.com will select 9 questions to be compiled on to a list. The last remaining one is reserved for the moderation and administration team.
- The list will be compiled and submitted to the FFXI Community Relations Team, and the submitted list will also be posted on the news section for discussion, and if the FFXIOnline.com team find later that we missed any questions, we will tack it onto the next month's list.
- If you feel that a question should have been included on the list but was not, it is likely that you did not follow the formatting guidelines and/or it did not receive the appropriate support from other members.
- Inane questions, questions with obvious answers, questions with little thought, questions that are not legible, or questions that are not understandable, are unlikely to be included. Please make sure that you spell correctly and that your grammar is correct. Please take your time in posting your questions.
- Questions that are rude, offensive, full of profanity, or in bad taste will not only be omitted, but will be deleted and infraction points handed out as appropriate.
The due date to submit your questions for March 2007 is March 31 at 23:59:59 Pacific Time. After that, your question will be included in the next month's list if it qualifies.
The FFXIOnline.com Moderation and Administration Team will re-compile February's list and will post it in the Site News section once it is available. Please submit your questions here: http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/ask...questions-400/
Thank you,
AKosygin
FFXIOnline.com Moderation and Administration Team  Signature was intentionally left blank. Last edited by AKosygin : 03-05-2007 at 10:25 PM. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-05-2007, 08:18 PM | #2 (permalink) | | Vault Dweller Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: FL Posts: 472 Style: Dark - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 77 Thanked 76x in 46 Posts Gil: 738 Bank: 15,890 Total Gil: 16,628 Donate | Re: Changes to the "Ask SquareEnix" section. Originally Posted by AKosygin | - Inane questions or questions with obvious answers or questions with little thought or questions that is not legible or understandable is unlikely to be included. Please make sure that you spell correctly and that your grammar is correct. Please take your time in posting your questions.
| Emphasis mine. Oh teh irony!
Ok, this thread is serious again. Nothing to see here, move along. :P Myaku of Garuda Signature courtesy of Selphiie the Enchantress LS: CoVD / GiggleSnorts Manthra - THF/Crafter 56 THF | 43 WHM | 37 WAR | 37 NIN | 25 SMN | 24 PLD | 20 MNK | 20 BLM | All others 10 San d'Oria Rank 6 (6-1) | RotZ 04 | CoP 4-2 | ToAU 12 | WotG 02 Leathercraft 63+1 | Alchemy 60 | Cooking 60 | Woodworking 60 | Smithing 60 | Goldsmithing 35 | Clothcraft 5 | Fishing 1 | Chocobo Digging: Recruit | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Wise Donkey for above post: | | | 03-05-2007, 09:27 PM | #3 (permalink) | | anti-spam Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,532 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 21 Thanked 63x in 58 Posts Gil: 30,461 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 30,461 Donate | Re: Changes to the "Ask SquareEnix" section. wise guy eh? how's about a ban stick for you? :evil: | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-05-2007, 10:27 PM | #4 (permalink) | | Programming Slave Administrator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: California, USA Posts: 1,551 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 65 Thanked 60x in 29 Posts Gil: 25,390 Bank: 19,292,936 Total Gil: 19,318,326 Donate | Re: Changes to the "Ask SquareEnix" section. Originally Posted by Wise Donkey | Emphasis mine. Oh teh irony!
Ok, this thread is serious again. Nothing to see here, move along. :P | BTW, I did say the questions, not my announcement.  Signature was intentionally left blank. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-06-2007, 12:10 AM | #5 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Arizona Posts: 82 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 2 Thanked 8x in 6 Posts Gil: 810 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 810 Donate | Re: Changes to the "Ask SquareEnix" section. Are the posts already made safe from this new rule, or should we delete them and start over?
There are several posts that have been made prior to this announcment, my own among them, where the topic header is NOT phrased as a question; as 'normal' users, we can't edit the headers once posted, so should we simply delete them and start over?
Also, we no longer have the ability to search previous questions that may have already been answered - how about creating an viewable archive of these instead of just deleting them and saving a lot of duplication of questions??
If a question is not submitted to SE, can it be re-entered for reconsideration? It strikes me that 9 is a pretty restrictive number - today is only the 6th of the month and there are already 6 posts in there! At that rate, we may be looking at a question per day - what are the criteria that the review committee will be looking for to decide if a question should go forward or not? Number of replies? Or simply based on the gut feeling of the reviewers at the time? | Quote: | | If you feel that a question should have been included on the list but was not, it is likely that you did not follow the formatting guidelines and/or it did not receive the appropriate support from other members. | This would infer that popularity is the key, but I would like to confirm this - FFXI is enough of a guessing game as it is (unless you read through the cheats and spoilers) - please don't make this forum the same!! CatrinM WHM75/ BST75/BRD45/BLM37/PLD37/WAR37
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Linkshell: PromathiaChained / Shiva Beastmasters never die, we just get do-overs! Last edited by Idun_Midgardsormr : 03-06-2007 at 12:22 AM. Reason: more thoughts ... | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-06-2007, 01:59 AM | #6 (permalink) | | Programming Slave Administrator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: California, USA Posts: 1,551 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 65 Thanked 60x in 29 Posts Gil: 25,390 Bank: 19,292,936 Total Gil: 19,318,326 Donate | Re: Changes to the "Ask SquareEnix" section. Originally Posted by Idun_Midgardsormr | Are the posts already made safe from this new rule, or should we delete them and start over?
There are several posts that have been made prior to this announcment, my own among them, where the topic header is NOT phrased as a question; as 'normal' users, we can't edit the headers once posted, so should we simply delete them and start over? | It is safe from the question rule, but you still have the option of remaking the thread. Alternatively, please PM me with the change in the thread title and I can change it for you. | Quote: | | Also, we no longer have the ability to search previous questions that may have already been answered - how about creating an viewable archive of these instead of just deleting them and saving a lot of duplication of questions?? | I did archive all the previous questions. If you go to the "Ask SE" section and click on the "Archive" thing at the top, you will find the forums listed where things are archived. | Quote: | | If a question is not submitted to SE, can it be re-entered for reconsideration? | Yes, you may resubmit it. What may not be a good topic this month may be next month if there were changes that changes the situation. | Quote: | | It strikes me that 9 is a pretty restrictive number - today is only the 6th of the month and there are already 6 posts in there! At that rate, we may be looking at a question per day - what are the criteria that the review committee will be looking for to decide if a question should go forward or not? Number of replies? Or simply based on the gut feeling of the reviewers at the time? This would infer that popularity is the key, but I would like to confirm this - FFXI is enough of a guessing game as it is (unless you read through the cheats and spoilers) - please don't make this forum the same!! | It is a combination of the following (and this is not all inclusive as this is more of a guideline than a rule):
Presuming that the question meets the syntax and rules specified previously and is a pretty good question in general.... - Is the question frequently asked by the community that can only be answered by SE, but was not addressed recently?
- Is it a reoccuring "hot topic" discussed in the community?
- Does the question lend itself to possibly an interesting answer?
- Is the question generally popular with the community in which the community collectively wonders about the answer?
The first one might cover questions like: "Are we going to get a Windowed Mode?" or "Could we search under multiple jobs?"
The second one might cover questions like: "What are you doing about RMT?"
The third one might cover questions like: "Who is [GM]Dave?" or "What does the Dev Team have in mind for the near future?"
The last one is generally a popularity contest, based upon the "ratings" people give to the thread, and the activity of the thread in views and replies.
We actually plan to submit 10 questions, the last question being reserved for use by the Mod/Admin team to put in a question that may be missed, off the wall, rephrased, or one deserving to be asked that did not fall within the normal guidelines.
Most questions should not be repetitively asked of SE, and should be current. No point in asking about last year's update this year.
I hope that answered most of your questions.  Signature was intentionally left blank. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to AKosygin For This Useful Post: | | | 04-03-2007, 04:02 AM | #7 (permalink) | | anti-spam Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,532 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 21 Thanked 63x in 58 Posts Gil: 30,461 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 30,461 Donate | Re: Rules for the "Ask SquareEnix" section. old rules are still valid, but thanks to IfritnoItazura for reminding us to clean up some of our posts :P Last edited by neighbortaru : 04-03-2007 at 04:20 AM. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-24-2007, 02:33 AM | #8 (permalink) | | Sticky Paws Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,860 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 235 Thanked 604x in 393 Posts Gil: 8,917 Bank: 79,407 Total Gil: 88,324 Donate | Re: Rules for the "Ask SquareEnix" section. Isn't it about time to close off the "Ask SquareEnix Questions" sub-forum? The questions aren't being sent to S-E, and the company isn't interested in answering.
Having this sub-forum is misleading. Lock it and bury it somewhere, please.  “ I’m in pain, but I’m happy.”
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“ That’s why I can tell you from the depths of my being…” | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-24-2007, 02:38 AM | #9 (permalink) | | Digital Wizard Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 5,965 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 69 Thanked 451x in 295 Posts Gil: 2,408 Bank: 47,106 Total Gil: 49,514 Donate | Re: Rules for the "Ask SquareEnix" section. Originally Posted by IfritnoItazura | Isn't it about time to close off the "Ask SquareEnix Questions" sub-forum? The questions aren't being sent to S-E, and the company isn't interested in answering.
Having this sub-forum is misleading. Lock it and bury it somewhere, please. | It's mostly there as a feedback tool. We DO actually get responses, when there's actually enough meaty questions to submit.
With the impending release of Wings of the Goddess, I foresee a lot of questions popping up; as such, I think it's a good idea to leave this section open to give people somewhere to vent about how stupid Dancer is. ;)
Icemage | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-24-2007, 02:44 AM | #10 (permalink) | | Personafied FFXIWiki Team Join Date: May 2006 Location: Windurst Posts: 4,206 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 141 Thanked 1,103x in 614 Posts Gil: 11,703 Bank: 5 Total Gil: 11,708 Donate | Re: Rules for the "Ask SquareEnix" section. Just because SE doesn't answer these questions directly or right away does not mean these questions aren't looked at or considered. As such, I think this forum is worth keeping around. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Omgwtfbbqkitten For This Useful Post: | | | 10-24-2007, 03:27 AM | #11 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Arizona Posts: 82 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 2 Thanked 8x in 6 Posts Gil: 810 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 810 Donate | Re: Rules for the "Ask SquareEnix" section. Lack of feedback from SE would seem to infer lack of interest on their part. Perhaps if they were to take a more active part, it might lend a bit more credibility to the forum, but there again they don't even respond to questions or requests on the POL site, so perhaps that's a bit much to ask? CatrinM WHM75/ BST75/BRD45/BLM37/PLD37/WAR37
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Linkshell: PromathiaChained / Shiva Beastmasters never die, we just get do-overs! | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-24-2007, 03:43 AM | #12 (permalink) | | Digital Wizard Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 5,965 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 69 Thanked 451x in 295 Posts Gil: 2,408 Bank: 47,106 Total Gil: 49,514 Donate | Re: Rules for the "Ask SquareEnix" section. Originally Posted by Idun_Midgardsormr | | Lack of feedback from SE would seem to infer lack of interest on their part. Perhaps if they were to take a more active part, it might lend a bit more credibility to the forum, but there again they don't even respond to questions or requests on the POL site, so perhaps that's a bit much to ask? | We do have a contact at S-E where we can forward the questions, but there has to be enough interest beyond the occasional "Why doesn't this work?" to make it worth the time to do so.
Square-Enix doesn't monitor this forum; we do. The intent is that we distill the best questions and forward them on, but many questions have already been answered, and there aren't (quite) enough good questions to send another request to them as yet.
Bear in mind that they're doing us a favor by answering any questions, so we can't just rapid-fire bombard them with just any question every few weeks. That's why the rules in this subforum are set the way they are - they're designed to filter out needless questions where the answers are either already known or are moot.
Icemage | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-24-2007, 04:04 AM | #13 (permalink) | | The S.E.E.S. Brigade Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,439 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1,596 Thanked 1,396x in 976 Posts Gil: 14,940 Bank: 213,935 Total Gil: 228,876 Donate | Re: Rules for the "Ask SquareEnix" section. | Quote: | | they're designed to filter out needless questions where the answers are either already known or are moot. | If only there was a way to force people to pass a test on the subject before they could post here. | Originally Posted by someone who just spent ten minutes with feba | | wtf? I am horribly disoriented and scared. I can't tell what's real anymore | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-24-2007, 04:06 AM | #14 (permalink) | | Sticky Paws Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,860 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 235 Thanked 604x in 393 Posts Gil: 8,917 Bank: 79,407 Total Gil: 88,324 Donate | Re: Rules for the "Ask SquareEnix" section. Originally Posted by Icemage | | We DO actually get responses, when there's actually enough meaty questions to submit. | How are you managing a reply when you're not sending questions to someone who can answer them? Originally Posted by AKosygin | | However, as I have said, the way for the questions to make it to the appropriate people and back isn't complete and we are still in the middle of ironing it out. | i.e. We never got replies back from first set of questions, since it was sent to the wrong person. Not that the existence of the semi-mystical "right person" has been confirmed, as of yet.
* * * Originally Posted by Icemage | | With the impending release of Wings of the Goddess, I foresee a lot of questions popping up; as such, I think it's a good idea to leave this section open to give people somewhere to vent about how stupid Dancer is. ;) | The existence of this sub-forum is still misleading. At least, lock it until DiV can actually deliver questions with assurance of reply.
Don't think so? Then, post the replies to the first (and only?) set of questions sent. =b  “ I’m in pain, but I’m happy.”
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“ That’s why I can tell you from the depths of my being…” | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-24-2007, 04:34 AM | #15 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,758 Style: Light - Version 4 Thanks: 76 Thanked 191x in 143 Posts Gil: 20,097 Bank: 39,714 Total Gil: 59,811 Donate | Re: Rules for the "Ask SquareEnix" section. No one is being hurt by this sub-forum, the mods and admins do not need to prove anything and SE *is* listening to the fan base on many many things and the proof can be seen in game.
I see no reason to "Lock it and bury it" at all. All that's needed are questions that can't be answered by other players or simply waiting a week or two to find out in game. "I have a forebrain, my ability to abstract thoughts allow for all kinds of things" - Red Mage 8-Bit theater | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:05 AM. | | |