Does anyone else sense an insane imbalance...?

Awntawn · 01-09-2004, 12:37 AM

Sorry, I need to rant... When you see a MNK PLD BRD RDM WHM party shouting for a monk in jeuno, and /sea to find 3590280682983982382930868309280 attacking jobs (but not MNK) of that same level with invite up, it's a form of injustice that would piss off any frontliner... BRD I can understand, they're irreplaceable. WHM, RDM, BLM? Sure. Shouting for a specific attacking class...

Now I do hate to whine, but I feel that the whole dream asura thing is fscking bullshit. As if monks weren't powerful enough... Now they've far surpassed even rangers, who spend thousands of gil per party, in terms of both consistent AND nuking damage...

In my book, the purpose of multi-hit WS's is to go inbetween skillchains when the other person isn't ready, so you can charge it back up really fast... NOT to deal insane buttloads of damage with machinegun speed... I'm sorry but I really think square overdid it this time.

Add the fact that bones are best (by FAAAAARRR) things to level on at high levels... people don't want any melee other than MNK. No THF, no WAR, no RNG, no DRK, no DRG, no SAM... hell even no PLD. MNK MNK MNK BRD WHM BLM, now let's go gain 7k exp per hour...

I wouldn't be surprised if they come back with a nerf next update... 'Cuz right now it's just ridiculous.

bigbig1982 · 01-09-2004, 12:46 AM

Right, need new enemies with same amount of exp....no bones.........shit I hate them!

davidmmmm9 · 01-09-2004, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigbig1982
Right, need new enemies with same amount of exp....no bones.........shit I hate them!

cuz you're not a monk (-_-)

Lone Dragon · 01-09-2004, 01:34 AM

Damn, is it that bad ass?

........rrehehehehehehe...um.....I feel kinda bad for you, honestly I do (total non-bullshit area here, I swear on the blood of my family and god above), buuuuut.......um.......KYAHAHAHAHAHHAHA....

It's not that I'm happy that all the other jobs were dethroned,
I'm just happy Monk has a perk at the high end.

Aldo · 01-09-2004, 01:41 AM

Gustav isn't the only place to level up. DRKs are good for Ru'Avitau.

DJplaeskool · 01-09-2004, 01:53 AM

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Awntawn · 01-09-2004, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Aldo
Gustav isn't the only place to level up. DRKs are good for Ru'Avitau.

..... which sucks shit in comparison to bones :mad:

shit man every party I make, the mages start talking about their awesome PT in gustav with 3 monks... as if i'm wasting their time by not being a monk and inviting them into a bone party.... talk about discouragement...

tongyang · 01-09-2004, 07:42 AM

When you're 71+, you'll be almost as popular as them monks :p

Cedric-Archaon · 01-09-2004, 08:41 AM

I guess this is the saving grace for monks taking the backseat to thiefs before.

Elite · 01-09-2004, 12:30 PM

All classes gets their chance at easy going levels, yet drk is still on the line :sweat:

Shuketsu · 01-09-2004, 12:56 PM

Bones = best exp, Dragoons = useless against bones...

Awesome!

I'm starting to doubt the ability of Dragoons to live up to their damage dealing counterparts... Sure, I'm pretty useful right now, but what about later levels? I'm not up there yet, so this could just be me worrying like a dumbass, but I haven't heard about Dragoons doing any more than penta spam (which isn't that powerful, at least right now) and fitting in renkei well. However, Drks have Cross Reaper, which I hear is insane, Monks have Dream Asura, Rangers have had Sidewinder and the like, and thieves have had their stuff (although they're more "hate setters" than damage dealers). So where does that leave Dragoons? Not to mention Samurai... I don't know their position so well now, but last I heard, they still disliked their relative lack of power at later levels.

struck · 01-09-2004, 01:38 PM

Dragoons can't fight bones. But boy can we fight Dragons. All 3 of them.

bigbig1982 · 01-09-2004, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elite
All classes gets their chance at easy going levels, yet drk is still on the line :sweat:

DRK 70+, MNK 67+.........WAR???

TheMidg · 01-09-2004, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by struck
Dragoons can't fight bones. But boy can we fight Dragons. All 3 of them.

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Xuande · 01-09-2004, 03:23 PM

Monk's popularity isn't because of their dream asura move, it's because of their strength against bones and their ease to do the light renkei. Ranpere's tomb is simply the best leveling spot to go to if you have 2 monks from 71-75 (huge range). So that's why you might be seeing shouts for monks.

These days, parties are made based on where the leader wants to go, not the way it used to be (party made and THEN the place is decided). Yeah it's unfair, but in the end, they're still a monk, and when they're hunting something besides bones...

01-09-2004, 12:37 AM	#1
Awntawn Veteran Member Allied Ribbon of Glory Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,081 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	Does anyone else sense an insane imbalance...? Sorry, I need to rant... When you see a MNK PLD BRD RDM WHM party shouting for a monk in jeuno, and /sea to find 3590280682983982382930868309280 attacking jobs (but not MNK) of that same level with invite up, it's a form of injustice that would piss off any frontliner... BRD I can understand, they're irreplaceable. WHM, RDM, BLM? Sure. Shouting for a specific attacking class... Now I do hate to whine, but I feel that the whole dream asura thing is fscking bullshit. As if monks weren't powerful enough... Now they've far surpassed even rangers, who spend thousands of gil per party, in terms of both consistent AND nuking damage... In my book, the purpose of multi-hit WS's is to go inbetween skillchains when the other person isn't ready, so you can charge it back up really fast... NOT to deal insane buttloads of damage with machinegun speed... I'm sorry but I really think square overdid it this time. Add the fact that bones are best (by FAAAAARRR) things to level on at high levels... people don't want any melee other than MNK. No THF, no WAR, no RNG, no DRK, no DRG, no SAM... hell even no PLD. MNK MNK MNK BRD WHM BLM, now let's go gain 7k exp per hour... I wouldn't be surprised if they come back with a nerf next update... 'Cuz right now it's just ridiculous. __________________ DRK75 / THF37 / WAR37 / RDM60 / BLM31 / PLD11 ohnoez

01-09-2004, 01:34 AM	#4
Lone Dragon Member Bronze Ribbon of Service Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NY, USA Posts: 617 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	Damn, is it that bad ass? ........rrehehehehehehe...um.....I feel kinda bad for you, honestly I do (total non-bullshit area here, I swear on the blood of my family and god above), buuuuut.......um.......KYAHAHAHAHAHHAHA.... It's not that I'm happy that all the other jobs were dethroned, I'm just happy Monk has a perk at the high end. __________________ Rude, but not wrong. ;x Rank 10 Bastok, Rank 10 San d'Oria, Rank 10 Windurst 'Rize of the Zilart' Missions: Completed 'Chains of Promathia' Missions: Completed Treasures of Aht Urhgan Missions: #8 Private First Class Purple: O \| Brown: O \| Black X ;-; Mee Deggi the Punisher: 1/1 (no help, no TH) "I Kill For Fun, Meng!!" - Tony

01-09-2004, 01:53 AM	#6
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01-09-2004, 08:41 AM	#9
Cedric-Archaon Member Bronze Ribbon of Service Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 599 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	I guess this is the saving grace for monks taking the backseat to thiefs before. __________________ Squirming through cuts in a throat cut it...cut it... Cedric - WHM63/ PLD52/ MNK43/ BLM31/ WAR27/ THF16/ BST13/ SMN10/ RDM05/ RNG05/ DRK05 Archaon - THF35/ WHM34/ RDM32/ BLM17/ MNK14/ NIN10/ BST10/ RNG06/ WAR05

01-09-2004, 12:30 PM	#10
Elite Senior Member Brass Ribbon of Service Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,129 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	All classes gets their chance at easy going levels, yet drk is still on the line :sweat: __________________ \|Elites\|PLD75/RNG75/WAR37/NIN37/MNK54 Sandoria - Rank 10

01-09-2004, 12:46 AM	#2
bigbig1982 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 164 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	Right, need new enemies with same amount of exp....no bones.........shit I hate them!

01-09-2004, 01:41 AM	#5
Aldo Senior Member Brass Ribbon of Service Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,179 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	Gustav isn't the only place to level up. DRKs are good for Ru'Avitau.

01-09-2004, 07:42 AM	#8
tongyang Super Moderator Bronze Ribbon of Service Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 753 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	When you're 71+, you'll be almost as popular as them monks :p

01-09-2004, 12:56 PM	#11
Shuketsu Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 151 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	Bones = best exp, Dragoons = useless against bones... Awesome! I'm starting to doubt the ability of Dragoons to live up to their damage dealing counterparts... Sure, I'm pretty useful right now, but what about later levels? I'm not up there yet, so this could just be me worrying like a dumbass, but I haven't heard about Dragoons doing any more than penta spam (which isn't that powerful, at least right now) and fitting in renkei well. However, Drks have Cross Reaper, which I hear is insane, Monks have Dream Asura, Rangers have had Sidewinder and the like, and thieves have had their stuff (although they're more "hate setters" than damage dealers). So where does that leave Dragoons? Not to mention Samurai... I don't know their position so well now, but last I heard, they still disliked their relative lack of power at later levels.

01-09-2004, 01:38 PM	#12
struck Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 297 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	Dragoons can't fight bones. But boy can we fight Dragons. All 3 of them. __________________ Ailis 竜・７５�?�?・６�?�?戦・４�?�?シ� �４�? 白・６１�?�?�・３�?�?黒・４�?

01-09-2004, 03:23 PM	#15
Xuande Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 330 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	Monk's popularity isn't because of their dream asura move, it's because of their strength against bones and their ease to do the light renkei. Ranpere's tomb is simply the best leveling spot to go to if you have 2 monks from 71-75 (huge range). So that's why you might be seeing shouts for monks. These days, parties are made based on where the leader wants to go, not the way it used to be (party made and THEN the place is decided). Yeah it's unfair, but in the end, they're still a monk, and when they're hunting something besides bones... __________________ Gatts - PLD75/WAR37 and you call your self a canadian PiNG broke my sig and all I got was this T-shirt.

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