Alchemy Guild Points

--e · 03-20-2006, 07:35 AM

Is there a master list anywhere of which items are offered for Guild Point turn-in? The options differ depending on crafting skill level, don't they?

Has anyone analyzed the Gil vs GP vs GP/day ratios to see what's most effective? Would it ever make sense to stall at a lower level because the GP options are better?

I've checked somepage and ffrecipe.com, but I might be completely missing it. I'd appreciate any links or hints that might help me map

Thanks!
--e

neighbortaru · 03-20-2006, 07:45 AM

salvation is at hand:
http://www.titanictus.com/tools/guild/

--e · 03-20-2006, 07:47 AM

That certainly addresses part of my question!
Thanks a lot, pretty cool. I can do the legwork from there if I have to, but if others have tables and spreadsheets already set up...

I know, I'm a geek.

Taskmage · 03-20-2006, 08:16 AM

That site is invaluable.

My experience with cooking is that post-60 you start seeing some "land mines" of GP items that are either really expensive for the GP they give or just really difficult to obtain the ingredients for, but they aren't really commonplace until you get to Adept rank items. Higher level items are generally much less efficient in terms of gil:guild ratio, but they do offer a higher cap on the max GP you can get in a day. So if you want to get GP as fast as possible then get your rank up. If you want GP as cheap as possible I guess you might consider keeping your rank low for a while.

At worst, though, raising your rank only takes a day out of your week. Your rank doesn't represent the level of item you will be asked to turn in every day, just the highest level of item you will ever be asked for. The guild cycles through ranks from Amateur to whatever your rank is and then resets. So in a given earth week a Novice crafter might be asked for items of these ranks:[code] Monday |Tuesday |Wednesday |Thursday |Friday |Saturday |Sunday
Amateur |Recruit |Initiate |Novice |Amateur |Recruit |Initiate[/code]whereas a Craftsman would see[code] Monday |Tuesday |Wednesday |Thursday |Friday |Saturday |Sunday
Amateur |Recruit |Initiate |Novice |Apprentice |Journeyman |Craftsman[/code]These are only examples. Monday isn't always synced up across ranks, though sometimes that pattern does come up. Even if all the Craftsman level items were deemed too expensive to be worthwhile, you still have 6 reasonable days a week to accumulate points. I suppose how much of a difference this makes depends on how fast your guild ramps in cost as your skill levels go up.

--e · 03-20-2006, 10:39 AM

Ooh, great info. Is there a set group of recipes for each rank, or does it randomly choose from all the available recipes within the rank range?

Also, anyone familiar enough with alchemy specifically to tell me a little bit about how cost increase correlates with rank increase?

Y'all rock, thanks for the help!

Taskmage · 03-20-2006, 11:14 AM

There is a specific group of recipes in each rank that is picked from at random. At least it seems random to me. I don't think there's a good listing of them anywhere, but you can page through your guilds listings at www2.ffrecipe.com rank by rank to see which ones can be GP items.

--e · 03-20-2006, 11:19 AM

that's EXACTLY what I was looking for.

Thank you so much. Now all I have to do is cost it out \^_^/

03-20-2006, 07:35 AM	#1
--e Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 126 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	Alchemy Guild Points Is there a master list anywhere of which items are offered for Guild Point turn-in? The options differ depending on crafting skill level, don't they? Has anyone analyzed the Gil vs GP vs GP/day ratios to see what's most effective? Would it ever make sense to stall at a lower level because the GP options are better? I've checked somepage and ffrecipe.com, but I might be completely missing it. I'd appreciate any links or hints that might help me map Thanks! --e

03-20-2006, 07:45 AM	#2
neighbortaru anti-spam Super Moderator Steelknight Emblem Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,532 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 22 Thanked 63x in 58 Posts My Mood:	Re: Alchemy Guild Points salvation is at hand: http://www.titanictus.com/tools/guild/ __________________

03-20-2006, 07:47 AM	#3
--e Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 126 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	Re: Alchemy Guild Points That certainly addresses part of my question! Thanks a lot, pretty cool. I can do the legwork from there if I have to, but if others have tables and spreadsheets already set up... I know, I'm a geek.

03-20-2006, 08:16 AM	#4
Taskmage 不完全の花 Administrator Iron Emblem of Service Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 5,457 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 311 Thanked 987x in 495 Posts	Re: Alchemy Guild Points That site is invaluable. My experience with cooking is that post-60 you start seeing some "land mines" of GP items that are either really expensive for the GP they give or just really difficult to obtain the ingredients for, but they aren't really commonplace until you get to Adept rank items. Higher level items are generally much less efficient in terms of gil:guild ratio, but they do offer a higher cap on the max GP you can get in a day. So if you want to get GP as fast as possible then get your rank up. If you want GP as cheap as possible I guess you might consider keeping your rank low for a while. At worst, though, raising your rank only takes a day out of your week. Your rank doesn't represent the level of item you will be asked to turn in every day, just the highest level of item you will ever be asked for. The guild cycles through ranks from Amateur to whatever your rank is and then resets. So in a given earth week a Novice crafter might be asked for items of these ranks:[code] Monday \|Tuesday \|Wednesday \|Thursday \|Friday \|Saturday \|Sunday Amateur \|Recruit \|Initiate \|Novice \|Amateur \|Recruit \|Initiate[/code]whereas a Craftsman would see[code] Monday \|Tuesday \|Wednesday \|Thursday \|Friday \|Saturday \|Sunday Amateur \|Recruit \|Initiate \|Novice \|Apprentice \|Journeyman \|Craftsman[/code]These are only examples. Monday isn't always synced up across ranks, though sometimes that pattern does come up. Even if all the Craftsman level items were deemed too expensive to be worthwhile, you still have 6 reasonable days a week to accumulate points. I suppose how much of a difference this makes depends on how fast your guild ramps in cost as your skill levels go up. __________________ A trail of feelings, of awe and inspiration, should lead him to that castle: in the future: her arms enclosing him, her scent fills him with excitement, creates a moment so strong he can remember it in the past.

03-20-2006, 10:39 AM	#5
--e Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 126 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	Re: Alchemy Guild Points Ooh, great info. Is there a set group of recipes for each rank, or does it randomly choose from all the available recipes within the rank range? Also, anyone familiar enough with alchemy specifically to tell me a little bit about how cost increase correlates with rank increase? Y'all rock, thanks for the help!

03-20-2006, 11:14 AM	#6
Taskmage 不完全の花 Administrator Iron Emblem of Service Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 5,457 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 311 Thanked 987x in 495 Posts	Re: Alchemy Guild Points There is a specific group of recipes in each rank that is picked from at random. At least it seems random to me. I don't think there's a good listing of them anywhere, but you can page through your guilds listings at www2.ffrecipe.com rank by rank to see which ones can be GP items. __________________ A trail of feelings, of awe and inspiration, should lead him to that castle: in the future: her arms enclosing him, her scent fills him with excitement, creates a moment so strong he can remember it in the past.

03-20-2006, 11:19 AM	#7
--e Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 126 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	Re: Alchemy Guild Points that's EXACTLY what I was looking for. Thank you so much. Now all I have to do is cost it out \^_^/

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