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Old 04-05-2008, 02:17 PM   #59 (permalink)
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Re: So after 3 years you still can't solo this game?
Originally Posted by Kittyneko View Post
Fact is, Dragoon is soloable and so are a lot of other jobs, and jobs who normally are bad at soloing can solo pretty well using an adventuring fellow, unfortunately this is not the sollution to long time partying.
Are you people literate?

Originally Posted by Feba View Post
I'm not disagreeing with FFXI's heavy bias towards partying. I'm just saying that using other FF games as a justification makes no freaking sense.
I don't give a shit if the NPC or Wyvern helps you out, or if campaign is a good way to get EXP without joining a party. That was never my complaint, never my point, and never a subject of debate. Like you said yourself, it's not a solution to partying, which is very close to my point.

Originally Posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten View Post
I was simply stating there are gambit-like systems in the game.
Then you'd be wrong. The main point of gambits is that you can set them yourself. Having to change from a melee subjob to a mage subjob just to change a bit of your wyvern's behavoir is very clearly not a gambit-like system. Is it kinda-sorta similar to gambits, in that "If Condition > x%, Use <Spell>" is how it works? I suppose. But this is like comparing poisona and erase.

Originally Posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten View Post
Are you going to tell me that's not a custom gambit?
Yes, very clearly. Gambits were NEVER dependant on what you were equipped with or what job you use. Not ONCE in FF12 did I ever have to sacrifice a lance for a bow so I could improve my gambits (not counting needing ranged attacks, of course). Also see the above paragraph. A gambit is not an AI acting a certain way under certain circumstances, it is a thing which you can set and control with a good amount of precision and flexibility, and provides an ALTERNATIVE to babysitting characters, while still allowing you FULL MANUAL CONTROL over an entire REGULAR PLAYER CHARACTER that could just as easily replace your main character.

Originally Posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten View Post
If you want to split hairs and make up your own personal definitions of what AI actions are, fine, at the end of the day, there is pet AI
Oh boy, pet AI! Thanks BBQ, you've shown me how wrong I really was. I mean, the pet having a bit of predictability really makes it like CONTROLLING AN ENTIRE PARTY MANUALLY doesn't it?

Originally Posted by Kittyneko View Post
Just as if you could buy 5 more consoles or computer's, and 5 more FFXI accounts.
And plenty of people have done this. However, for the purposes of this argument, that's irrelevant, as I'm pretty freaking sure nobody every bought three extra NES and copies of FF just to be able to control those characters. If the characters aren't controlled by a single client and account, they might as well be considered to be controlled by other players-- which again, I'm not complaining about, but is not a valid comparison with other FF games.



Originally Posted by MrMageo View Post
I traded it for a bag of cocaine
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