[Sabaron]

The catch is this: a delay reduction doesn't have the same TP benefit as actual Haste. Dual Wield lowers TP gain proportionately to the delay; as such, it only helps raise DoT, not TP gain -- and TP gain is what DNC needs. Haste, however, doesn't proportionately lower TP gain.

Ahh.. Right, Right...

When dual wielding weapons with different Delays, the average Delay (reduction included) is used for the TP calculations; both weapons will gain the same TP.

So DW doesn't give any Haste with respect to TP gain, just DPS. The /NIN whores are all about it as a "Haste" effect. I must have been deceived.

The H2H thing worked well in Yhoator, but that was the last time I saw a DNC with H2H on--after about Viper Bite level, they really seem go for the Daggers (even though they never use it). I'm assuming it's because of the Accuracy dip. Maybe /DRG would allow DNC to use H2H longer.

I can really see using /DRG now, especially post 30. Before Wyvern Earring, I don't think the TP gain on H2H or Dagger would be significant enough for me to prefer it over /MNK if using H2H or /NIN if using Daggers. I'll amend my feelings to...

?-30: /MNK (party) using H2H
30-59: /DRG using Dagger (too bad DNC can't use Centurion's Sword)
60-75: /SAM using Dagger

Now, I've not seen very many DNC's use their TP for WS. Has anyone tried tossing a WS and then using Meditate to recover?