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True, what I think doesn't make them de facto pullers. How the majority of players play the game makes them de facto pullers, the same way it makes SMN a de facto healer/support and NIN a de facto tank. Some people are unhappy with each of those roles, too. But if they show up to a party they expect to play it according to what is needed by the party, which is often not pure DD.

Difference - I pay for my EXP. Each kill, each fight. SMN doesn't do that, PLD doesn't do that. Only other classes that really do that are BST, PUP, THF and NIN. The rest of you buy armor and replace it or sit on your butts to get MP back and spend paltry amounts on food. SMN avatar melee and RDM DD is too weak to be worthwhile in a EXP PT, which is why they're relegated to the roles they have. Mine isn't.

Just as time is money, EXP is gil to me - I get what I want or I keep on seeking. I owe the PT no role but the one I choose for myself.

So what? Screw corsair's roll, it's like 5% anyway. A good puller is worth more than that.

You seem to enjoy being wrong lately. At worst, its 10% and often, its a lot better than that. Sanction is 10%. I only use it if I'm placed in situations where I get what I want (i.e. not pulling or /WHM in merit) or I'm PTing with jobs that aren't invited to merits often, they died and we can still EXP without them we're or doing endgame/mission farming - that's about as altruistic as I get about Corsair's Roll, otherwise it's a gimmick to me.

I've never actually seen this attitude from a RNG ingame - only from you on these forums. I don't notice any other rangers showing up to agree with you, either. (Maybe they just haven't noticed the thread, though. Want to check the RNG forums for threads on pulling and see how many RNGs think it should be someone else's job?)

You clearly don't know RNGs then.

High Delay Weapon + Competitive Camp = Like hell I'm pulling. That's common knowledge in COR and RNG circles. We've been over this, person with the lowest delay weapon wins. That said, don't expect RNGs to start camping Loxley Bow just to be a puller. Again, we come to DD and the DD bows have high delay. Even with Velocity Shot now, there are pullers with lower delay. Only COR gets a passable low delay gun at 72 for EXP and most don't want to use Peacemaker to DD, its a pull-only gun and guess what we're not doing if we're using that?.

Players' willingness to accept, not boot and even invite back piss-poor BRDs has a lot more to do with that (the same as it did for RDM).

Actually, no, it doesn't. Its very hard to maintain a two-minute duration buff and meet a PTs chain # wants. Perhaps its easier at lower levels, but in merit camps these days, buffs have to fall to the wayside for high chain numbers. That's why SE is giving the job more to do

Um, maybe because BST never, ever, ever look for parties? In my entire time playing FFXI the number of BST I have seen with their lfp flag up can be counted on one hand. If they're soloing anyway it wouldn't cost them anything to solo with flag up - but they don't. You can argue about why, but clearly it's the BSTs that don't want parties and not vice versa. Seeing a BST that actually wants to join a party is rarer than seeing King Behemoth unclaimed.

False, I see BSTs commonly seek PTs, your server =/= reality. Even moreso these days with the penaltys removed and Snarl being an actual PT asset. I've gotten three PT invites in 66 levels, two unsolicited, guess how many hours of seeking with our flags up drives us to go back to soloing? Countless. I could seek while soloing and very little would change about my invite rate. We're just not seen as part of the DD clique to the high level community, even when we outparse thier precious WARs and only we get Relic Axe and then also Temperence Axe >.>;, but I digress.

More people pick up BST these days because the EXP PT climate, quite frankly, sucks and they don't wish to deal with PTs. Same reason a lot of people solo thier jobs to sub level. See also: PUP, DNC, NIN and any job that can solo for EXP.