[Karinya]

/shrug, think what you want, doesn't mean RNG and COR or even THF are defacto pullers.

True, what I think doesn't make them de facto pullers. How the majority of players play the game makes them de facto pullers, the same way it makes SMN a de facto healer/support and NIN a de facto tank. Some people are unhappy with each of those roles, too. But if they show up to a party they expect to play it according to what is needed by the party, which is often not pure DD.

I can honestly tell you as a COR PTs that invite me to pull have no chance of getting Corsair's Roll.

So what? Screw corsair's roll, it's like 5% anyway. A good puller is worth more than that.

There are plenty of RNGs that don't pull and object to it given what other jobs are present it should only be a last resort, not a point or which they're invited.

I've never actually seen this attitude from a RNG ingame - only from you on these forums. I don't notice any other rangers showing up to agree with you, either. (Maybe they just haven't noticed the thread, though. Want to check the RNG forums for threads on pulling and see how many RNGs think it should be someone else's job?)

Being ask to pull as BRD is irksome because it diminishes thier focus on buffing and its fostered the creation of several piss-poor BRDs.

Players' willingness to accept, not boot and even invite back piss-poor BRDs has a lot more to do with that (the same as it did for RDM).

That, in turn, comes from the fact that BRD is extremely overpowered in party play - even a piss-poor BRD is better than almost any other job, skilled and well equipped, in the same party slot. You have to get into truly horrible BRD territory before replacing them with anything but another BRD (or maybe COR, but they're ultra-rare) will actually improve your exp/hr. Even two-BRD parties can rarely replace *one* bard and perform better. (Manaburns excepted.)

BST/NIN with pet and Bow could be best puller ever, why doesn't anyone invite them? Shadows, Pets, Snarl - sounds perfect, really. Never happens.

Um, maybe because BST never, ever, ever look for parties? In my entire time playing FFXI the number of BST I have seen with their lfp flag up can be counted on one hand. If they're soloing anyway it wouldn't cost them anything to solo with flag up - but they don't. You can argue about why, but clearly it's the BSTs that don't want parties and not vice versa. Seeing a BST that actually wants to join a party is rarer than seeing King Behemoth unclaimed.