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Old 02-24-2008, 11:19 AM   #108 (permalink)
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Re: Battle System Improvements (02/22/2008)
Originally Posted by Karinya View Post
Wrong. Even once SCH is high enough level to do those things at all (which relies on their subjob, because otherwise they wouldn't even have the spells), they're still on a minimum *4* minute recast timer, and that's assuming you're just going to suck up the casting time and MP cost penalties and not try to stratagem-combo to offset them. (If you think SMN's dependence on its recast timers is bad, you really don't want to ever try SCH.) And you don't mention SMN buffs or debuffs with no equivalent from another job, like several of Fenrir's.
Your comparison of Summoner to Scholar is flawed, as a Scholar does not need to use one of their four-minute-recast stratagems in order to spellcast. Summoner, on the other hand, is indeed forced to only one spell from each of two types of pacts every minute. Try to get around that without bringing heavily relied-upon subjobs in to the mix.

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SMN needs, at most, tweaks: another look at perp costs, spirits casting sooner/more often/smarter, rework of some bugged/too weak BPs. The job is useful and wanted in a variety of settings as it is, and some people clearly have no problem leveling; the fact that it isn't the job *you* want it to be doesn't make it "broken".
Anybody who has no problem leveling Summoner already has another job at 75. Period.

You can wave all of your Carby Mitts and Fenrirs and Diaboloses all you want, but who honestly has those without already having a higher-leveled job? Everybody know's Summoner can do some pretty powerful stuff at endgame, but getting there is far from newbie-friendly.

Summoner at endgame only needs a few tweaks at most: before that, it needs a flippin' overhauling.



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