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Old 10-30-2006, 08:42 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: TP Burn
Originally Posted by raidenn View Post
Suffer?
Melee jobs has been suffering lack of party invites since the beginning of FFXI.
Try being a Drg, Drk or Sam before any of the updates, no warp cudgel, no sushi and camping for days in Lower Jeuno for a party. Now thats real suffering.
I've been a DRG since many of those updates, just post-TP nerf, actually. I haven't thrown in the towel entirely, mind you, but with the expenses i run on COR and RNG and the expenses I plan on with NIN, it stays on the backburner until a time I'm not so focused on jobs with consumables and can spare the gil for gear I want. NIN should serve me to that end in most respects anyway.

But I was never a DRG that sat moaning in Jeuno about their lack of invites, either. I was proactive and soloed a lot. That's not only helped me on the end of beastmen seals, but added prior knowledge so I could solo as BST. So I have no pity for the DRGs of the past that LFGed all the time in Jeuno.

Originally Posted by Taskmage
Yeah y'know ... I recall a point in FFXI history when manaburn and arrowburn were buzzwords and you couldn't get a rng or blm to accept an invite to a normal party because they could get much better exp in their burn parties. It's no wonder the current ws-spam mentality developed when most parties only had a burster once in a blue moon.

I'm not saying the current burn mentality is any more right, but if you want to make it out to some kind of sob story that blm and rng are now at the bottom of the invite pile where all the melee used to be, you can cry me a river.

The pld and smn problems are beyond the scope of tp-burn, imo.
Arrowburns at least made sense in function, big EXP returns for low spending... and skillchains still happened, even though they were coincidental. Manaburn was far less obnoxious than Arrow because there was at least some downtime, but with a BRD it was still very effeicient in terms of MP. The core difference is that those were more elitest functions and more self-contained as a result, not every BLM and RNG was a burn-primadonna like some like to think they all were. I knew many who still favored a balanced setup since I myself as a BRD didn't strap myself entirely to a RNG's leg pre-nerf.

I don't crap on BLMs now for what happened in COP because the BLMs coming up now aren't those BLMs. The RNGs coming up now are also not the Arrowburn generation. I personally don't suffer for invites too badly as RNG since I keep my COR evenly levelled with it (I obsess about my marksmanship, lol), my name tends to be remembered when people are inviting again. Some people invite familiar faces, others invite by the "favored" jobs. TP burn amplifies the problem with the latter. Arrow and Manaburn might have been elitiest, but TP burn makes the elitism of "efficiency" rather commonplace now rather than exclusive.





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