| Originally Posted by Leos |
Like I already said, they are both against the Terms of Agreement. It's nice that you think one is more acceptable than the other but at the end of the day if you're using a windower only and not other cheats or plug ins or instant claiming bot, you are still susceptible to a ban. I'm not saying there is no differences to cheats, obviously they are all different, but they all result in the same thing, that's why you can't really sit on the fence on this. You are either violating the rules or you are not. Are you telling me that if you're only using a windower that you are not a cheater? Then I dare you to call a GM and tell him you are on a windower and prove it to me that you will not be banned. So, no I don't think I need to rethink my stance. You should actually try reading the post I made.
Yes I am a cheater, I use a windower, I use a minimap, I dat swap, but in terms of morality and because they are blatantly obvious to spot I would never use a bot to outclaim, I wouldn't use a flee tool and whatever else. And hell yes I am still scared to get banned when/if they ever discover that I am using a windower. Just because the general populace thinks it's considered "okay" it doesn't mean it is in the eyes of the people who set up the rules (In this case SE). And if you think I'm wrong show me anywhere in the ToS where it's says enabling minimization is okay and isn't as bannable as instant claiming everything. |
The ToS means very little when it's enforced completely at any one GM's descretion. It's like we're dealing with those small, technical driving laws like using your lights to change lanes and making a complete and utter stop at a stop sign before continuing. Police aren't enforcing them all the time, if at all, because they're primarly a tool for them to pull over people they suspect of commiting larger crimes to investigate. You can't pull somebody over because you think they're selling pot out of their trunk, but you can pull them over because they forget to signal their lane change and investigate from there.
FFXI GMs don't work like that. Red or black, pick a number, spin the wheel, GM Roll, whatever. The grey areas are created when the black and white ToS was muddled by loose enforcement. It's the Wild Wild West out there with the GMs being a random bullet or stray arrow.