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Old 06-24-2006, 08:14 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Re: Greivances with "The List"
Well Thrasher, I never said our server had the worst RMT, but we tend to keep an eye on certain individuals while we play, mostly due to whatever interactions we have from them. We come to learn their behavior, their play pattern, and several other players' interactions and opinions of them.

So having SS of RMT admitting that they are RMT means that they aren't breaking the TOS, even though they just admitted that they perform actions that break the TOS? And regarding the claim that they aren't breaking the TOS, you could easily ask some HNM hunters who trained Weapons and Ghosts and Skeletons onto them while they camped Serket, or who ran Detectors upon a group while farming triggers in sky, or who did the Pld/Thf cure for hate, invincible, and flee with HNM 'till claim was lost and HNM stolen. It happened all too frequently before the anti-MPK update, and now the very same people who tried to MPK the legitimate players have attempted the same think up in sky, and have even taken to attempting to steal Kirin from groups who try to pop him.

And not everyone goes out and tries to MPK the RMT. I personally don't go for MPK, and won't attempt it. I will however, deny any of them any assistance of any kind. MPK isn't the only way to make a statement against RMT, though the way some here speak of the 'witch-hunts' and acting as bad as the RMT, seems that's all that is on their mind regarding our disagreements. RMT are ignored for a good bit in Jeuno while they shout for teleports, even when offering up to 10-15k for a Dem/Mea/Holla. They don't get raises in whatever areas when they die. No cures, no assistance for WSNMs, nothing. Sure they'll get help eventually, but it won't be from us.

Well, I think all that has been said is pretty much said. Continuing this any further would seem rather pointless, unless some new aspect of the debate pops up. Though I did come across this today, and if it is indeed valid, we mere players are not the only ones who are well-aware of who the RMT are, and if Japan has truly instructed the GMs to stay away from the RMT, then we're in a bit of a pickle, as they're given a good bit of freedom to do as they please. Hopefully whatever actions SE has planned coming up will be better than anything they've previously attempted.

Good debating with you Aelathir. You do provide some good point which I agree with, but at the same time it's those arguments that make me believe that the list is better there than not. Even for those who would take it with a grain of salt, it's something to look at for players to watch out for. And even still, it's a small percentage, a very small percentage of the community that is affected by this. Perhaps SE's next move will erase any need for The List. Until that time though, I'd like to have something to look at in regards of who I'll help and who I won't. So for now I think I'll cease debate, though if a good argumentative point is brought up, I'll be back. I'm almost always up for a good debate.
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